Malissa Clark is an Associate Professor of Industrial-Organizational Psychology at the University of Georgia and Director of the Healthy Work Lab. She is the author of Never Not Working: Why the Always-On Culture Is Bad for Business—and How to Fix It. 

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Timestamps

(2:03) – Welcoming Malissa.
(2:24) – How did you come to study workaholism?
(3:41) – How do you define workaholism?
(10:48) – How much of workaholism is about the action work versus how you feel about the work?
(13:21) – It’s normal for achievement to take a lot of sacrifice.  Don’t we have to be workaholics to succeed?
(15:31) – What is “introjected motivation”?
(19:43) – How can we determine the difference between interjected and intrinsic motivation?
(24:05) – What impact does workaholism have on your health and relationships?
(28:46) – How influential are our phones and technology in fostering workaholism?
(31:08) – Can you explain what “working light” is?
(32:47) – Why is working light bad?
(34:47) – How do we break the cycle of responsiveness?
(48:05) – How do we let go of the guilt of not being productive?
(49:18) – What’s an example of a mastery experience?
(54:34) – Can you dispel the myth of needing employees to be workaholics for a company to succeed?
(1:00:49) – What one or two things someone struggling with workaholism should do to start?